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Flying saucers and alien invasions.

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Once the stuff of science fiction.

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Not anymore.

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They're all going against the wind.

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The wind's a hundred and twenty-nine percent west.

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Oh, thank you.

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I do not have an explanation for what this object is.

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But in the land down under,

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UFO sightings aren't one-off events.

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They're happening almost daily.

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I have no idea what this thing is.

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Australia and New Zealand.

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Isolated countries floating in an ocean of blue

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are attempting location for first contact.

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I've seen some weird things in my life, but that's the weirdest.

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Call the flying saucer, call the UFO, call the UAP.

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One thing's for sure, it's not a plane.

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Using eyewitness accounts.

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It's like a bloody quantum saucer.

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And expert commentary.

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That was physical evidence.

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Now for the first time, the Southern Hemisphere's

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UFO encounters are under the microscope.

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Is this seriously a UFO? Look.

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Is there something going on that will change what we know

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about our universe?

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In the Australian outback, close encounters can be deadly,

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and not just for human beings.

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In this story, we investigate a phenomena as grisly as it is baffling.

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It's been reported all over the country for decades,

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and it's called cattle-meat.

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It involves extremely advanced surgical procedures

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being performed on cows.

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But many believe this is the handiwork of another race of beings.

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In rugged Queensland country northwest of Mackay,

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cattle grazers Mick and Judy Cook were both terrified and shocked

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by a gruesome discovery on their remote property.

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They were also terrified and shocked by a massive discovery

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of the animal's body.

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They were also terrified and shocked by a gruesome discovery

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on their remote property.

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The appearance of mutilated cattle.

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Mick and Judy Cook were from Gloverley Station

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in the Broken River Ranges out from Youngler.

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We've been here for 32 years.

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We've had things happen to our cattle.

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First happened to us all, we owe 15 years about the first time

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it happened, and we just thought it was very strange,

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and didn't do anything about it.

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But that changed years later when the Cooks discovered

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more cattle with shocking mutilations.

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The carcass looked as if its udder, tongue, and jaw

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were surgically removed.

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No pools of blood, no tracks leading away.

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And this time, there was more to the story.

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We had seen some lights out of the west sort of thing

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that would be unusual.

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Some lights were descending and mucking about.

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You go down and then it would come back up,

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and it was sort of changing colours a bit.

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We couldn't tell how, whether it was five kilometres

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or 100 kilometres.

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Anyway, I went out early next morning and found this dead steer,

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and he was actually just through the fence in the wrong buddy.

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We had a good look around him.

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Took some photos to show him my wife Judy when I got home.

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Went on round and found some other cattle there,

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and for some reason they were really spooked.

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I eventually caught him up over the other side of the paddock.

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Obviously something that proper terrorized him, you know.

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and I dragged this beast out into the paddock,

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about probably 300 or 400 metres out.

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we were coming back around with my daughter and two or third children.

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And I said, I'll just check that beast.

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I'll bait it up so we can get rid of them.

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We went across and this beast had been operated on.

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It had the ear removed, the jaw and tongue removed,

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testicle bag removed and the pistol removed,

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which was, you know, we found very unusual.

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I took photos of that so I could show Judy the same story.

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The beast that I dragged out there had been swapped over.

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That had been operated on.

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It was a lot lighter colour.

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The tail, everything was just, yeah, all the colouring, everything.

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It's very wet and so it had to be something capable of picking him up,

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operating on him and then putting him back down

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without doing any, without disturbing him

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It's just been put very gently and there's no struggles,

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no marks or anything.

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US-based journalist, documentary filmmaker and author,

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into cattle mutilation, more than 40 years ago.

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In the late summer of 1979,

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I was with my cameraman and my audio guy,

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somebody who had found a local mutilation at a ranch

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because there were a lot of mutilations then, all the time.

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I'm walking next to the cameraman.

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We could never get closer than 30 feet.

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Everything died.

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No power, nothing.

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We would walk back toward the truck.

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Everything would come back on.

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What's happening?

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Linda was determined to solve the mystery.

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She contacted the local sheriff who'd been investigating cattle mutilations.

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And he pulled out 166 color polaroids that he had taken

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and you can't manipulate a color polaroid.

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And he took me case by case by case and I laid it out on the floor

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so we could look at it in time.

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You cannot, not with scissors, not with a knife,

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not with a razor, you cannot strip the cartilage

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and the tendons that are holding the jaw flesh to a cow jaw.

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as you try to get it off and you won't get it off.

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It looks as if every speck of everything but the bone is gone.

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It's that perfect.

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This phenomena, which has been Linda's life work,

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is still occurring today to Judy and Mick.

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We had one operated on probably eight, nine days ago.

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It's really frustrating because you just don't know

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and it's just happening and there's nothing we can do about it.

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So that's sort of the frustrating thing and we don't know what it is.

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Judy and Mick are understandably baffled.

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But Linda remembers the words of the sheriff from 1979.

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He said, whatever did this, it had the ability to control muscles and nerves.

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I'll never forget it.

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And then he said, Linda, I'll save you some time.

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The perpetrators of these animal mutilations that are bloodless and trackless

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are creatures from outer space.

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Next, on Close Encounters Down Under.

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My brother described it as a tractor beam that we'd seen on some of the shows like Star Trek.

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Our next investigation takes us to Adelaide, the capital of South Australia,

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where picturesque vineyards meet rugged ranges

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and the harsh, endless expanse of the Simpson Desert.

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Adelaide's called the city of churches for its rich history,

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but it also has its record of UFO sightings.

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Our story starts just outside the city,

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where primary witness Phil Tyndale believes he saw not only UFOs,

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but UFOs in combat.

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My name's Phil Tyndale.

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My brother and I had a very interesting UFO experience in 1980 when we were 10 years old.

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So it was the 7th of February, 1980, when this event happened.

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And it was about 9.30 at night, so we'd just gone to bed.

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It just got sort of dark, so it was a...

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We had a view of the entire valley, and at the end of the valley, there was a sort of a gentle rise,

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with trees and whatnot growing on it, and that formed sort of our horizon, I suppose.

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It really all just happened right in front of us.

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Rob's window faced out this direction, and we'd only just gone to bed,

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and he called out to me,

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Phil, Phil, come and check this out.

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And so I bounced out of bed.

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I could tell by the excitement in his voice that he'd seen something interesting.

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I ran into his room, and there was a yellow light bobbing around, just above the tree line.

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but there was some movement, a bit of drift display, and that way, and then back to where it was.

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something a bit down the yellow end of the spectrum.

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So that was the sort of brightness and size, and we could tell that it was not an ordinary craft.

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so it didn't move like a helicopter, it didn't move like an airplane.

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The lights didn't dim, the luminosity stayed the same,

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and gave an impression that it was actually the skin of the craft that was glowing.

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zoomed down from above and joined this yellow craft,

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Lots of swirls and zigzags as these craft objects zoomed around.

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We hadn't seen a UFO before, and we certainly knew that these weren't ours.

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That was really obvious, just by the turns, the instant reversals,

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nothing that we had could do that.

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So we knew that this was pretty interesting.

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and tried to persuade them to get out of bed.

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and we went back to my brother's room to continue watching the chase.

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And at some point, the yellow one seemed to be being pulled towards the red craft,

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seemed to lose its autonomy and then wriggling itself back

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It only lasted a few seconds, and then the yellow one appeared to free itself

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and then zoom off and the chase continued.

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where the yellow one seemed to get stuck,

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the yellow one took off to our right and disappeared behind the trees and the hill,

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the sort of the rise in the ground.

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The yellow one sort of pretty well took off at a blink of an eye speed,

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and I remember telling one of the teachers, the response was fairly lackluster.

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My friends sort of thought it was interesting and went back to doing whatever,

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but not particularly interesting.

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While Phil had the comfort of knowing his twin brother witnessed the same event,

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having it verified by a third independent party was especially reassuring.

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Two days later, there was a report in the paper.

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This was the story that a chap by the name of Darrell Brown reported.

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So what Darrell described is he said that he heard a loud crash on that same night about the same time.

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which were scared and uncharacteristically scared.

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And so he went out of the torch to see, believe there had been a car accident or something to that effect.

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But he could hear this noise coming from the tree, one of the big pine trees out the back, a creaking and a groaning.

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So he shone his torch into the tree, and there was this yellow shaped object.

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He described it as looking like a speedboat about eight metres long,

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and it had knocked off branches from the tree, it had done damage to the tree, it smashed it up nicely.

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That's what the report described in the newspaper.

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And we knew that Darrell was telling the truth, because the event that he described was on the same day, the same time,

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and he lived, his location was towards our right or towards the north, where the craft disappeared too.

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So there was no confusing it, it was the same event.

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So we knew Darrell was telling the truth, because it matched our own experience.

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He was the third witness to the event, so my brother and I saw the chase, and Darrell saw the crash.

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That's how this unfolded.

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I didn't contact Darrell for many years later.

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As a child, it was not really possible for Phil and his brother to connect with their third witness.

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As the years rolled by, their encounter moved into the background of their busy lives.

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For the 30 years after this event, I suppose it was that long, it was really barely a pub story.

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We'd probably tell it around the campfire and a few mates, but neither my brother nor myself paid much attention to it.

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It really wasn't until the internet came around where I was able to reach out to other people and also reach out to Darrell,

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to try to find Darrell.

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What was really upsetting was Darrell actually passed away just a few months before I found his family.

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So he, I think, died, I think, on December 2016.

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So I had just missed out on actually speaking with Darrell personally,

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but I made contact with his previous wife and his two brothers.

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They all knew of the story.

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They knew that he was affected by it.

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They told me that, you know, they believed him, that they knew that he wasn't lying,

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but they didn't know what to do with the information.

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It was a big impact on his life.

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He was 21 when this happened, so he was older than my brother and I,

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and it probably was a fairly sort of awakening moment for him.

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So I really wanted to find him, and finding that I had missed him by just weeks or months was really upsetting.

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I felt real compassion for him.

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He would have gone to his grave thinking he was the only person who saw this.

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I've had no other UFO experiences.

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It really was this one event that my brother and I saw in 1980.

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There's been no other sightings that I've had.

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I've spoken to many people who have, and who have had very recent sightings,

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but my brother, that's the only sighting that my brother and I had.

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With so many witnesses, the profound effect of these encounters can really only be softened by the knowledge that they're not alone.

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That others have also seen, that others also believe, because these events can be life-changing.

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Cheryl Gotshaw, the president of UFO Research Queensland, explains.

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Although some people in the public say, yes, if the UFO landed, I would run out and I would jump on it,

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but actually it's not that easy to have had these experiences, to be able to live with them in the world the way that we live.

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They may start to spontaneously see dead people, and that's going to be quite frightening.

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They can know things before it happens.

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They can often report that their diet is changed, that the foods that they used to eat, they can no longer eat,

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because they've had this other worldly experience.

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Everything else just seems very mundane to them, so that makes it really hard to be socially available,

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and so they tend to withdraw within themselves, and they can often live on the edge of society rather than be a part of it.

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They can struggle with their life purpose, and I've heard many people say that they have a strong sense of mission after their experiences.

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Yet they don't know what it is, and that can be very frustrating for them.

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So there's a whole host of reasons why you don't actually want to have a close encounter.

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If you capture something on one camera, that's great, but it could be a camera anomaly.

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If you capture it on two cameras, it rules out anomalies.

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Most people will go their whole lives without seeing a UFO,

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but a lucky few will see UFOs regularly throughout their lives.

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My name is Damien John Knot. I investigate paranormal and UFO, UAP phenomenon here in Australia.

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I started seeing UFOs when I was nine, and I saw UFOs when I was twelve.

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I saw them in the UFOs again when I was seventeen.

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I didn't see them again until I was twenty-five, so it was quite a few years in between, over a decade.

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I saw nothing.

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Damien moved to the country, and it was around the mid-north coast of New South Wales,

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in particular the Tari region, that he again started seeing things.

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In 2013, I had another incredible sighting at a place called Tipperary near Tari, New South Wales.

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This one particular time was the first time that Mike Williams came with me as a paranormal investigator.

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I'd set the camera up behind us, and we had another gentleman there called Lance.

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It was looking into the abyss behind us, where I camped out on this random mountain.

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The farmers down below had been reporting UFOs in this small little area going back 25, 30 years.

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Three of us witnessed a light, and this light was a tube of light, and it was purplish, whitish purple, blue in colour.

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And it came down, and as I'm leaning down to pick up my camera from the ground, this light has come, travelled over my shoulder.

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This thing maybe was about six feet long to eight feet long.

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It was hard to tell because of the speed it was travelling at, but Mike witnessed it as well,

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and it went down the length of my entire arm and disappeared and melted into the ground with no sound.

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I jumped in the air about five feet, Mike jumped back about five feet.

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We didn't know what that was, what was going on.

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So the next morning when I went through the footage, what you'll see is multiple lights,

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the same streaks of light coming down from up high, changing direction multiple times,

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and then flying into the ground at very high speeds.

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With all these UFOs appearing, he decided to arm himself with equipment to capture these objects,

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to leave as little doubt as possible about the evidence he's collected.

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There's a lot of skeptics who like to say that, oh, you know, if you capture something on one camera, that's great,

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but it could be a camera normally.

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If you capture it on two cameras, on the same camera, it's a lot better.

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If you capture it on two cameras, on the same tripod, it rules out anomalies,

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it rules out camera anomalies or whatever the case is.

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About a decade ago I started doing these big tripods where I'd have four, five, six different cameras,

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all on the one rig, so you capture the same object.

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2013 was a busy year for extraterrestrials.

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Damien's next sighting was at a friend's house in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney.

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So back in April in Hazelbrook in 2013, I had an incredible sighting.

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I was just sitting out in the back having a lunch with some friends.

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I was facing the backyard and witnessing myself, my partner, and one of my friends came over,

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and anyway, we were sitting at the table, and I was the only one facing the backyard where they were all facing me,

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and I had my camera and it was nearly flat from filming.

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And so as we're talking in the backyard, sure enough, this light, this cigar shaped object, pure beautiful white,

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was moving around doing these incredible maneuvers.

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So I started filming this thing.

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I'm watching it, I couldn't see it fully with the naked eye, I could see it through the camera,

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and I'm like, wow, what's going on, this is crazy.

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There's no wind, there's no anything like that.

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You can see the trees, you can see there's no movement in any of the leaves or anything like that.

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Surely I kept filming until the battery went dead, and...

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What resulted was a cigar object moving around the sky and doing all sorts of bizarre things.

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Along with orbs, triangles, and disc-shaped objects, cigar-shaped UFOs are commonly reported and photographed.

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Roger Stankovich has examined the data on UFO shapes and come to some conclusions about their purpose.

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So there is a level of consistency in the reporting that we see often.

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Some people are seeing orb-shaped objects, and that gives them some form of credibility in terms of what they're seeing.

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They're not only seeing it, they're actually photographing it and videoing it.

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People are seeing and photographing triangular-shaped UFOs, and people are seeing cigar-shaped UFOs.

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I assume that basically the smaller orb-type objects are unmanned vehicles,

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and they could be still of extraterrestrial origin.

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There's no reason why they can't be.

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The man ones obviously are the larger craft, and they are big enough to transport the entities.

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But whether manned or unmanned, the question still remains.

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Why?

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One thing that I know 100% is that we are being observed from a distance.

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We didn't come about just accidentally.

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We've been an ongoing experiment from the caveman all the way in the end of the war,

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the homo-rectors all the way up to homo sapiens.

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So you have the theory that these beings, they're just sitting back observing.

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That's why they're not landing on the White House lawn and saying,

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here we are humans, come and welcome us as your saviours or whatever the case.

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If any intelligent species has been watching us for anything longer than five minutes,

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they'd realise that humans are very nasty race, that we fight and we're still at war with each other,

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we're still killing each other, raping, murdering, stealing from each other.

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Any aliens that would land on the White House lawn would have to have no brains.

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Whatever the theory, for us to be sure about anything to do with UFOs and UAPs, we need more data.

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The Pentagon's decision to openly discuss extraterrestrials means that data has started to flow.

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I noticed straight away from the very day they came out, you know,

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literally I was getting ten times more messages all of a sudden.

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I've definitely noticed a much higher increase in people around the world who are more interested now in the phenomenon.

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It's opened it up to a bunch of people that would never have been interested in the UFO phenomenon before.

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It's opened up to the public who were interested in it, who it's scoffed at or believed it.

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So it's done a lot of good for many, many years.

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No one's been really allowed to speak about what they're witnessing or seeing.

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And without ridicule from their neighbours or from military or from whoever is ridiculing about the subject,

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just from the general public because of what's been said about the UFO phenomenon going back many years now.

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You know, you're crazy if you report it or you're crazy if you see something or whatever the case is.

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It's great people like myself coming out talking about UFOs,

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but what people seem to need is people with massive IQs and bigger university, you know,

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doctors behind them and stuff like that to tell them or some Pentagon study to tell them that UFOs are real,

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you know, for them to really accept that.

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But what I do say is that no matter what you're told about the UFO phenomenon at the end of the day,

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you won't believe it until you see the phenomenon with your own eyes.

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Coming up, a close encounter on a country road.

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This thing felt almost like it was playing a game or taunting.

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Could it be aliens or ancient spirits or are they one and the same?

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There is a danger at night time especially because the midnight lights will get you and you won't be coming back.

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Our next investigation takes us to the lonely country roads of southwest New South Wales,

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where single lane highways meander through farmland with only the occasional small town to break the journey.

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By day, these roads shimmer with heat haze.

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By night, headlights illuminate red eyes, signalling kangaroos and wombats.

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Country roads at night can be frightening, as our next witness found out.

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My name is Carly Forge and I had a strange encounter.

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I remember the date.

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It was the 19th of April 2015.

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Me and my friend Sam were driving back from the coast in New South Wales and we had stopped at a little town called Levin.

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I do remember when Sam got back in the car, we kind of both noted that it felt like we were being watched.

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I guess it's not unusual because we were in a pretty remote little country town.

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But we both had this weird unsettling feeling.

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We couldn't, I don't know, we just both made a comment on it.

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And so we pulled back onto the highway and we were travelling to Griffiths New South Wales.

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So it's about an hour's distance from Adlethan to Griffiths.

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And it was coming on dusk and I remember when it kind of started to get dark and we were just chatting and we're kind of engrossed in our conversation.

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I remember there was kind of a moment where we both became conscious of a light that was in the back windscreen.

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My friend had quite a small car so the light was filling up the whole of the back seat and the whole of the windscreen.

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And at this point we were kind of just thinking, oh, it's a bit unusual because it was one giant light and it kind of looked like it could have been a giant motorbike light.

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At one point it just felt like it was tailgating us.

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So Sam had kind of slowed down and motioned like go around as we were talking and it didn't go around.

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And we had this unsettling feeling about it because we were two girls on a pretty remote country road and it just felt like whatever this was.

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And we weren't going to paranormal. We were more thinking, is this like someone in a vehicle that's stalking us or whatever was going on.

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We just had this unsettling feeling about it.

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We could see a car was coming up on the horizon because we were on a long country road and it was pretty straight.

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So we were thinking the car will shine a light on whatever this vehicle is and we'll get a better look at what it is and maybe see who's inside it.

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And as soon as the car got semi-close to us, the light completely disappeared and it went pitch dark.

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As soon as the car kind of got away back on the horizon, the whole horizon filled up with light.

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And then within, I would say seconds, the light was back in the windscreen.

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We didn't actually see the light travel from the horizon to the windscreen.

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It was almost like one second it was here, the next second it was in the back windscreen.

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And that's when we really started to feel a bit panicked like it felt like it was actively stalking us.

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Whether we sped up or slowed down, it kept direct pace with the car.

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This thing felt almost like it was playing a game or taunting.

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And then we started to approach a little town called Yandah.

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And at this stage we were just quite panicked, wanted to get rid of whatever this light was.

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We decided that we would just stop in the town and wait for whatever it is to pass.

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And I think we waited about 10 or 15 minutes until we got back on the road

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because we just felt so vulnerable when we were out on that road by ourselves with whatever was following us.

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Was the light coming from spacecraft?

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Were Carly and her friend being chased by a UFO?

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We pull out of Yandah and again a long country road and we see the horizon fill up with light again.

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And we were like surely not and then again within seconds it was at the back windscreen following us.

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And by this stage we were pretty hysterical.

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We didn't know what it was, we were trying between the two of us to figure out what it was.

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But whatever it was we just felt like we just wanted to get rid of it.

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And then when another car came along the same thing happened again, the light disappeared.

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This happened like a couple of more times.

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So then we're starting to get close to Griffith which was the town we're travelling into.

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And as soon as we approached the town it disappeared.

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I guess what happened next was we got home and our friend Steph said

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it sounds like you've had an encounter with Minmin lights and I'd never heard of this term before.

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And we were like what? And she goes yeah I've heard about these because my dad had an experience where he was followed in a paddock by light.

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I'm a radio announcer and on Monday I spoke about it, it just happened on Sunday still.

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I was still pretty rattled by the experience.

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And I was in two minds if I talk about it on air or not and I did nuts when the phones kind of went nuts.

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We just fielded calls all morning from people.

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And these were people that seemed pretty legitimate to me and that genuinely had a bit of a fear around it but no one had an explanation for it.

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That sparked something in me to go how is this something I've never heard of now that I've experienced it and so many people have experienced it.

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I don't necessarily feel like what happened to me felt paranormal because I remember looking at that object and it felt quite tangible and real.

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I would like to find an explanation maybe more on the logical side maybe to make me feel a bit more at ease than the paranormal side.

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So was Carly's experience Minmin lights and what the hell are they anyway?

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UFO investigators Asper Leon Arter and Bill Chalker explain.

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I wouldn't say there's no explanation but with the Minmin light petition it's kind of like nature unbound.

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There's some evidence of very high strangeness type encounters with what appears to be the Minmin lights.

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It's doing things that take it out of the class of natural explanations.

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The Minmin light term is it's an Aboriginal term so that's been here way before white man never got here.

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Truckers see them all the time and try to get to them and see what they are but they just never can.

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They always seem to keep an equidistance between whoever's witnessing them and them and so if you speed up they speed up.

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There are a lot of natural explanations for some Minmin light reports but nevertheless there are many many encounters with Minmin light type lights that are just very difficult to explain.

445
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There is a danger element to them. The Aboriginal people have always warned their children at night time especially of going out on their own because the Minmin lights will get you and you won't be coming back.

446
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When you're like living in this constant state of adrenaline actually if anything it probably makes it more real and vivid for me how much adrenaline I felt when it was happening.

447
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For me it just felt like the longest hour of my life.

448
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Our final investigation takes us to the regional Victorian countryside 200 kilometers from the capital city Melbourne.

449
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Where in 2005 for one farmer it was the year of a strange harvest.

450
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My name's Pat. I've had an encounter with crop circles.

451
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We know some crop circles are elaborate hoaxes but we also know some are completely unexplainable.

452
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It was autumn and Patrick's father had sent him out into the chilly evening air to fix the family windmill.

453
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So I had to go down the back of the paddock which is about three kilometers down.

454
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So I do not like the dark so I took my dog.

455
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When I got to the windmill I turned it back there were no problems and then all of a sudden my dog started acting very funny.

456
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And what I mean by funny is he started barking.

457
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He started barking off the ground.

458
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He then started running off towards the paddock which is about seven to eight hundred meters away from the windmill.

459
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So I started chasing him pretty much screaming at him to come back to me but he would not listen to me.

460
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He got into this paddock and nothing was in this paddock so no sheep, no cattle, no livestock at all.

461
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I got to the gate, led into this paddock, I opened it and I could see him in the headlights heading towards the swamp.

462
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And all of a sudden he stopped barking, stopped doing everything, just stopped suddenly.

463
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And he for some unknown reason was just whining and I thought well has he been bitten or has he been hurt or what's going on.

464
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And then all of a sudden I had a feeling come over.

465
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This feeling was the best I can describe it is someone staring at you.

466
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,000
Maybe you've had someone stare at you at a public place and you don't know them and you feel uncomfortable.

467
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It was like that but ten times worse.

468
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It was like every sense that I had was telling me to just go, leave, leave this area right now.

469
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And you could pay me thousands and thousands of dollars to experience that again and I'd tell you did you go to the moon.

470
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So I got the hell out of there.

471
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I left the gate open even into the paddock because it just terrified me.

472
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Locked my dog up, went back inside, he did not say a word to my parents.

473
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I thought look there's got to be a reasonable explanation of this.

474
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I've never liked the dark so I just thought well look it must have just been my imagination.

475
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So the next morning I had to go up very early.

476
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I had to go back down and shut the gate into that paddock just because I did not want to get in trouble for that.

477
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So I decided to get over to the other side and just look around.

478
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I could find nothing weird at all and then all of a sudden I stopped and there was a crop circle.

479
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The grass inside it fresh only yesterday was now dead and it had been flattened.

480
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,000
It was a yellow tinge. It was perfectly round.

481
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,000
It was about my estimate was about 30 foot big.

482
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,000
There were no tracks leading away from there were no like car marks, nothing like this.

483
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This was a perfectly round circle.

484
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:47,000
The only tracks there were my own and I only went back to that spot twice to check it out because it terrified me so much.

485
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And I just I started hyperventilating. I did not know what to think.

486
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Had Patrick interrupted someone on his property the night before? Were they human?

487
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
I just realized that there was something staring at me last night.

488
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:15,000
I had something landed on the edge of the swamp and was telling me to get lost and then you know I left.

489
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And my biggest regret to these days not taking photos but then I realized that well if I get them developed.

490
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
What are the people who have developed in the photos?

491
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Can I think this guy's a UFO learning, going around spaying circles in the ground.

492
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Like others who have had encounters the experience has left a mark on Patrick.

493
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He can't unsee what he saw.

494
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Well let's just say it's a feeling you don't forget and I think it was a fact that it was just.

495
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I can't describe. Like I said I got sick because I just thought what in God's name is this.

496
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,000
And I think I was in denial for a long time. I didn't want to believe what was happening.

497
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:03,000
And I thought I must have maybe I dreamed it. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I miss. Maybe I'm mad.

498
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To this day. No nothing ever like that has happened again. And I don't ever want that happening again.

499
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That is the life I'm glad it was just a one off.

500
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It's a familiar story with UFO witnesses. Many who've had encounters wish it never happened.

501
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Cheryl Gottschall is the president of UFO Research Queensland.

502
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Over the years people have contacted me to report their close encounter experiences.

503
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And told me how these experiences have changed them because they didn't know how they could continue to exist.

504
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:47,000
You know in this reality having had an experience that we have no context for.

505
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:53,000
They can lose grip with reality and I've seen that quite a lot. They question everything.

506
00:41:53,000 --> 00:42:00,000
And so then they're left with well what is real. What do I know that I can say is actually the truth.

507
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:09,000
And that could be a really hard one to juggle for them to manage their life with nothing that they can really make sense of.

508
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,000
And they think why do I even work. What's the point. There's extra terrestrials that are contacting me.

509
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,000
How do I do a mundane job.

510
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When I've got that experience rattling around inside of me they can't find a place for it.

511
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:34,000
So there's a lot of trauma involved with people and they certainly experience a deep sense of isolation

512
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because they can't find the tribe basically. They no longer feel like they're a part of humanity.

513
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To this day my parents do not know about that story. It is something that really did affect me.

514
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,000
And well it affected me more than what I'd actually like to admit.

515
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Because to this day I still cannot go outside in the dark on the farm and not have that feeling that came over.

516
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And I'd like to see someone have that feeling and not run the other way.

517
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Because I don't care how brave you are. It does not matter.

518
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I think the bravest person in the world could have that feeling and would run the other way.